Halloween Resources & Information (652 views)From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/7/2002 12:06 pm  
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Halloween

A night filled with Folklore, Superstition, Fright, and Fiction, but it does not have to be that way! Every Day and every Night belong to the Lord Jesus Christ and Halloween is no exception!

Here are some well thought out and Professionally designed Christian Tracts, published by the American Tract Society (ATS) that are perfect to be handed out to (Trick or Treaters) or to anyone during the Halloween Season. The ATS has a long distinguished tradition of publishing and distributing Christian Tracts since 1825.

These Tracts are small brochure size pieces of paper that are interesting, colorful, funny, informative and each has the Gospel Message of the Love of Jesus for everyone printed on the tract.

The Tracts usually come in Packets of 25 Tracts for about $2.50 and a shipping charge based on the total purchase.

1-800-54-TRACT
http://www.atstracts.org/

30 Minn. Audio Presentation about the origins of Halloween and how we as Christians can Respond
http://www.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/ramhurl?p=rtsp&f=ats/halloween_01.rm

Another Resource for Tracts:
http://shop.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/GoodNews.storefront/EN/Catalog/1064/


Additional Halloween Resources: 
Koinonia House - Chuck Missler: Halloween: Invitation To The Occult?
http://www.khouse.org/mp3/download/#halloween

UNMASKING THE TRUTH ABOUT WITCHES

by Pastor David L. Brown, Ph.D.
http://logosresourcepages.org/truthwit.htm


South West Radio Church
A look at Halloween
http://www.swrc.com/daily/2002/db_oct02.htm 


What is Witchcraft / Satanism?

Pharmakeia (5331) "Pharmacy" medicine, drug, altered state, manipulation, magic 
Old Testament, Lachash (3907) whisper, mumble, cast a spell, charmer 

Verses - Deut 18:10 2Kings 9:22 2Chr 33:6 Mic 5:12Nah 3:4 
First Use: Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. {While living in the flesh everyone has the opportunity to repent, but once physical death, then comes eternal judgment and God will not allow a witch to remain and live in His presence}

1Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. 

Psalm 41:7 All that hate me whisper together against me: against me they do devise my hurt. 

Ecclesiastes 10:20 Curse not the king, no not in thy thought and curse not the rich in thy bedchamber: for a bird of the air (evil demonic spirit) shall carry the voice and that which hath wings shall tell the matter. 

Galatians 5:20,21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest (revealed), which are these; Adultery (unfaithfulness), fornication (uncovered), uncleanness (unmoral), lasciviousness (in contentment), idolatry (worldly desires), witchcraft (manipulation), hatred (hostility), variance (quarrel), emulations (jealousy), wrath (anger), strife (factions), seditions (disunion), heresies (unbiblical principals), envyings (ill-will), murders (ending life), drunkenness (worldly influences), revellings (letting loose) and such like: of which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 

Witchcraft is the practice and art of manipulation. This is carried out as people try in selfishness to get their way, to fulfill their various desires and whims. Witchcraft is the opposite of grace. Grace is giving someone the freedom to be themselves. witchcraft is the art of using manipulations, threats, situations, even rewards and promises as a means for manipulation, therefore placing someone in bondage and slavery to accomplish the certain desires of the manipulator. Witchcraft is a type of a spoken curse. An oath is a spoken commitment to perform a good deed, a curse is a spoken commitment to do evil and harm. 

Matthew 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea (yes), yea; Nay (no), nay; for whatsoever is more (manipulation/witchcraft) than this commeth of evil. {This does not preclude conversation, debate, discussion... it means to let other people have their own convictions, don't insist on changing peoples minds}


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From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)    10/7/2002 4:42 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (2 of 53)  
 
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Thank you for this post. I had not seen your 'logosresourcepages' site. It is very good. I'm just now reading on the 'martial arts' page. 
Last year I put our son in Karate, where he excelled and was gaining some confidence. [he's a shy guy...and this sort of brought him out of his shell a bit.] Anyway, I had had doubts that before I put him in, but one of my dearest friends married a guy who is an instructor and the main focus is on discipline (always a good thing) and self-confidence. [I know, the 'self' thing] So the focus wasn't on 'defense' as much as it was on learning discipline and how to use the body. I figured it would be 'ok.' 

After a few months in this, I decided to pull my son out because of conviction. I saw things, little things, which were about glorifying the founder of this specific type of karate and other things which I knew were not acceptable. 

Because of not finding out more about this BEFORE starting my son in karate, I basically had to break his heart and 'explain myself' to my friend and her husband. [well, they don't understand AT all.] 

I am so mad at myself for going for what I thought would do my son good over what I should have been doing.....seeking God's wisdom. ugh. 

Anyway...your site is great.

Amy

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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/7/2002 6:44 pm  
To:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)    (3 of 53)  
 
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Hi Amy,

LOL!

Yes that is a great site in fact his site is renowned for its research and information.

I discovered it last year when he was on a radio show talking about Halloween and I put some links from the forum to his web site.

Last year I took great pains to make sure that everyone knew that he is David L. Brown PHD and that I am David Anson Brown.

Actually that is why I use my middle name because there are a couple of renowned David Browns.

This year I was a little lazy and just posted his name and title but thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify.

I am very encouraged that you think that it could have been my information and do consider it a nice compliment :o).

Thanks,

God Bless you,

David



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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)    10/8/2002 3:05 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (4 of 53)  
 
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lol. Well, sorry for the mistake. It'd be good stuff no matter who wrote it. lol. I DO thank you for the links, though...:) It's important to know the ideas/origins behind what we do in this world. Thanks.
Amy

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  From:  oxley2   10/8/2002 7:07 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (5 of 53)  
 
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You are correct, everyday and night belong to God. If people really want something to complain about, they should look ot the origin of celebrating December 25 a Jesus' birthday.  
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/8/2002 8:58 am  
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Hi Oxley2,

Thanks for the good insight!

Here is an older Church resource that very well covers much of the origins of the Modern Secular Holidays and their origins dating back to Babylon (Iraq). Biblically Babylon is the inventor and perpetuator of False Religion.

It is interesting that this book is so old dating back to 1853, this is just prior to the American Civil War and the time during Abraham Lincolns Presidency. This is information just prior to the Modern Industrial Revolution and Modern Teachings which would sweep the word in the early 1900s and continue today.

"The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop"

by Rev. Alexander Hislop - First published as a pamphlet in 1853-- greatly expanded in 1858

http://pages.prodigy.net/hughson/hyslop/default.htm

See 

Chapter III Festivals

Section I. Christmas

God Bless you,

David



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  From:  oxley2   10/8/2002 10:56 am  
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Thank you very much. 
  
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  From:  Morgana (whateverrr)    10/11/2002 10:00 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (8 of 53)  
 
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"....Witchcraft is the practice and art of manipulation. This is carried out as people try in selfishness to get their way, to fulfill their various desires and whims. Witchcraft is the opposite of grace. Grace is giving someone the freedom to be themselves. witchcraft is the art of using manipulations, threats, situations, even rewards and promises as a means for manipulation, therefore placing someone in bondage and slavery to accomplish the certain desires of the manipulator. Witchcraft is a type of a spoken curse. An oath is a spoken commitment to perform a good deed, a curse is a spoken commitment to do evil and harm...." 
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  From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/12/2002 8:51 am  
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Yes... I'd like to know where the author of the 'Witchcraft' article got his PHD. Probably Regent LOL. It's an almost even mixture of complete falsehood... such as the alleged 'orgies' that we engage in (strange - 20 years a Witch, not one orgy. Why wasn't I invited); and half-truth strawmen. For instamce, it is true that Wicca stems from Gerald Gardner, in the mid-20th century. However, all but the newest, fluffiest Wiccans readily acknowledge that. They're not trying to 'fool' anybody. Witchcraft in the larger sense, however, is much older than Christianity. 
And Wiccans don't 'hide' behind the name. I, for one, have never hesitated to identify myself as a Witch.
Bored? Easily amused? Masochistic? Feel free to visit the Den of Iniquity! Join the fun! 
http://forums.delphiforums.com/firefight/start 

Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

Adrasteia & Lyrk: 
The Sapphic Spellcasters!
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/13/2002 9:36 am  
To:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   (10 of 53)  
 
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Hi,

Witchcraft is Not older than Christianity!

Witchcraft is old, very old, it is as old as Sin and Rebellion against God because Witchcraft is Sin an Rebellion against God.

Christianity however is a Relationship with God and a Relationship with God came First as God created us for a Relationship. It is the Witchcraft and sin that came after the relationship and severed our relationship with God.

God Bless You,

David



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  From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/13/2002 10:22 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (11 of 53)  
 
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I suppose, from a Christian perspective, you have an interesting argument. However, that's a matter of faith. I was speaking of a matter of fact, as this 'PHD' attemjpted to present his Strawman. 
OK, let's put it this way - the historical person Jesus 
who lived between around 29BCE and 4CE - Witchcraft goes back a LONG way before 29BCE or 290BCE or even 2900BCE. Agreed? 
Bored? Easily amused? Masochistic? Feel free to visit the Den of Iniquity! Join the fun! 
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Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

Adrasteia & Lyrk: 
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/13/2002 10:46 am  
To:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   (12 of 53)  
 
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Hi,

Jesus is the Divine Appearance and Revelation of God to humanity into Human form.

Jesus as God has always existed and He will Always Exist!

Sin, witchcraft and Rebellion are Only Temporary and are only temporally permitted by God but in a time, very soon, Sin and Rebellion will no longer be allowed to remain.

A Relationship with Jesus/God (Christianity) came first has continued and will continue forever while Sin and Rebellion are temporary and will be disposed of by the Wisdom and Judgment of God.

Therefore as a matter of Fact, Christianity is True and Sustainable and Not Witchcraft!

God Bless You,

David



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  From:  Jane (MarTexGal)    10/13/2002 2:43 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (13 of 53)  
 
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<<Sin, witchcraft and Rebellion are Only Temporary and are only temporally permitted by God but in a time, very soon, Sin and Rebellion will no longer be allowed to remain.>>
This statement is soooo true:)





 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/13/2002 3:19 pm  
To:  Jane (MarTexGal)    (14 of 53)  
 
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Hi Margal,

Welcome!

Thanks for your input.

I agree with your comment, and it was really exciting that while I was writing that post I wasnt sure what I was going to write and I was praying that God would help me to make His points and then the Holy Spirit revealed that to me so it was very exciting in deed to write it.

Psalm 7:9 Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins (resolve).

Have a Jesus :o) Day!

God Bless you,

David



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  From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/15/2002 4:48 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (15 of 53)  
 
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Interesting viewpoint... but from my point of view, quite the opposite is 'fact'. Witchcraft has proven itself to be quite sustainable, and it is the only Truth I've ever known. 
Bored? Easily amused? Masochistic? Feel free to visit the Den of Iniquity! Join the fun! 
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Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/15/2002 5:06 pm  
To:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   (16 of 53)  
 
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Hi,

Since Truth by definition is not subject to Human Interpretation it is best to continue to have the Truth defined by God and not by the whims of mortals.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man (human) cometh unto the Father but by Me.

When you get to know Jesus then you will rejoice in the Truth the real Truth!

God Bless you,

David



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  From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/15/2002 5:31 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (17 of 53)  
 
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Truth is defined by one thing: reality. It's that simple. But the complexities and nuances of finding that simple reality have kept churches, mosques and temples in business for millenia. We mortals interpret reality, especially in spiritual matters, according to our own viewpoint. For instance, we both 'know' we're right, and no amount of argument will change that, but one of us must be wrong. And, this side of Paradise or Perdition, there's no way for either of us to 'prove' which one of us it is.
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Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/15/2002 5:45 pm  
To:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   (18 of 53)  
 
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Hi,

Thats another area where you are Wrong. 

I dont think that I am right.

I know that Jesus is right and He is Alive to Verify it!

Therefore Im not trusting in me but I am trusting in Jesus.

And Im sure that you are not attempting to say that you alone are the possessor of truth and knowledge and that God and His Holy Prophets and His Bible are lacking compared to you and your knowledge and your abilities but that is what your postings do sound like.

God Bless you,

David



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  From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/15/2002 6:01 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (19 of 53)  
 
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On the contrary, I'm open to the possibilty that I am incorrect. However, I am as confident in my beliefs as you are in yours. And, just as you believe, it's not merely my wisdom that I rely on.
Bored? Easily amused? Masochistic? Feel free to visit the Den of Iniquity! Join the fun! 
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Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

Adrasteia & Lyrk: 
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   From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/15/2002 6:19 pm  
To:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   (20 of 53)  
 
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You are Confident in what belief?

That Sin, Witchcraft and Rebellion are going to end somewhere Positive.

God Bless you,

David



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From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/15/2002 6:30 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (21 of 53)  
 
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There's that perspective thing again. You believe that Witchcraft is rebellion, sin, etc. I believe you are incorrect in that assesment. I believe Witchcraft opens doors to the seeker, doors to the 'truth' we spoke of earlier. Doors to a better understanding of the Divine. Sin is a silly concept to me. Obviously, I don't believe in sin and I can't 'rebel' against that which is fantasy, to me. One more way in which you are incorrect is that you seem to think that Witchcraft is based on manipulating others. There is magick that can be used towards that end but that's hardly the essence of the Craft. Adrasteia and I,personaly, would only influence the wil of another in self-defense. 
Bored? Easily amused? Masochistic? Feel free to visit the Den of Iniquity! Join the fun! 
http://forums.delphiforums.com/firefight/start 

Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

Adrasteia & Lyrk: 
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/15/2002 6:49 pm  
To:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   (22 of 53)  
 
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Earlier you posted about "Reality" what happened? 

Now you are acting like reality doesnt exist but only your "fantasy" does.

I think that in your Witchcraft you are playing with something that you think is a toy and that like a toy can be handled and manipulated but in Reality it is very harmful and dangerous so please do be careful and always keep the Truth and the Love and Safety of Jesus Christ in your heart and in your mind.

God Bless You,

David



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  From:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)    10/16/2002 1:02 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (23 of 53)  
 
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David,  this is such an excellent commentary and resource, I will be using this on two sites I co-manage...thanks so much...~Minister Falcon   
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/16/2002 7:46 am  
To:  cato20   (26 of 53)  
 
  446.26 in reply to 446.24  
 
*Forum Note: Postings to and from CATO20 are not going to make much sense.

CATO20 had his posting privileges removed for Profanity so on his way out of the forum he came back and deleted or re-wrote some of his postings to be completely different than his original postings.

Sorry for the inconvenience and the disruption to the forum.

God Bless you, David

Hi Cato20,

Since the purpose of Halloween is to Bestow a Treat to the children that come to your door Halloween is a Perfect Night to distribute Christian Literature. After all there is not a better gift than the gift Jesus has given to us of Eternal Life in His Life!

In fact I was just thinking that wouldnt it be great if every house handed out Christian tracts then the kids and parents would know that they live in a nice, safe neighborhood amongst Christians who care for and love them. I think it sends a great message of care and love to the neighborhood!

Someone also said that children are now taking tracts with them as they go door to door and blessing the people who give them candy by giving them a tract.

So it really is in the "spirit" of Halloween to give a treat and Jesus/Christians have the best treat of all, Heaven!

Revelation 22:1-3 And he showed me (Heaven) a pure river of water of Life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. And there shall be No more Curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and His servants shall serve Him:

*Another Poster just asked you when you will approve of handing out tracts. Im wondering that too.

God Bless you,

David



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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/16/2002 8:15 am  
To:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)    (27 of 53)  
 
  446.27 in reply to 446.23  
 
Hi OsmFalcom,

Always nice to see you!

Also, please leave a couple of links, if it's convenient, to your forums it would be nice to have another way to get to your forums.

Keep up the Good work.

God Bless you,

David



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  From:  cato20   10/16/2002 9:50 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (28 of 53)  
 
  446.28 in reply to 446.26  
 
It's true that innocent fun is not always as harmless as we think. 

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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/16/2002 10:57 am  
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Hi Cato20,

"why not be nice?"

Of course "Nice" is according to your definition.

Lets see - is a sack full of candy "Nice" as in here kid get some sugar shock and who knows what else?

Lets see  are cobwebs, ghosts, demons, fright, death, nightmares, and who knows what else nice?

Lets see  is arson, vandalism , pranks, curses, witchcraft and who knows what else nice?

Lets see  how about sacrifices, death, bleeding, torture, rape, murder of people, pets and animals and who knows what else is that nice? 

Im sure that you think that you are just such a "Nice Guy" and not like those Christians who you have so much hate and resentment for.

David



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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/16/2002 11:05 am  
To:  cato20   (30 of 53)  
 
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Cato20,

BTW since Halloween is so dangerous the next day after Halloween some of the kids might not even be alive to wittiness to at their home so best to do it the night of Halloween while there is still hope.

David



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  From:  cato20   10/16/2002 11:38 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (31 of 53)  
 
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Hi David. 
Do you really think the average Halloween in suburbia America is that violent? I haven't noticed anything like that. 



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  From:  cato20   10/16/2002 11:41 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (32 of 53)  
 
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I don't know what neighborhood you live in where animal torture, rape and the deaths of the trick or treaters are that predictable... 
but in mine, three to ten year olds go door to door for an hour and a half and are treated in a kindly fashion by their neighbors. 
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/16/2002 12:29 pm  
To:  cato20   (33 of 53)  
 
  446.33 in reply to 446.31  
 
Cato20,

I didnt call the little children that. I called the people who do those things to the little children that.

Those are the people who you are enabling to do their dirty deeds because you dont acknowledge the Dark Side of Halloween.

If Halloween were only about candy than no-one would have any complaints but its not so therefore Halloween is dark suspicious and dangerous.

Many of the people who do want a Fun, Safe, Candy filled night full of activities visit the various Christian Church Harvest Festivals. These are people who acknowledge that Fun and Abundance come from God and look forward to giving the children a safe environment where they can have fun.

I totally recommend that families wanting to participate in Halloween go to the Churches that have the Harvest type Festivals.

That is usually where I am at is volunteering at a Church Harvest event "lights out" just doesnt seem to be an option.

David



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  From:  cato20   10/16/2002 2:04 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (34 of 53)  
 
  446.34 in reply to 446.33  
 
Obviously, serious Christians can disagree at times on how to approach problems we encounter in the world. But hopefully we can see what we have in common as well and try to work together. 

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  From:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)    10/16/2002 3:24 pm  
To:  cato20   (35 of 53)  
 
  446.35 in reply to 446.34  
 
CATO20

Gotta tell ya, that harmless is as harmless does......Satan's High Holy day is not harmless to anyone.  

Celebrating is EXACTLY what Satan likes to have uninformed parents do: parade their children is the masks and disguises that are meant to deceive.  Although Satan tells us 'they are so cute in their little disguises....' what a lie!  Father of all lies!  

As they grow up, children become adults who then continue to wear their masks and continue to deceive.  A deceiver is one who becomes deceived.  Sounds ridiculous right?  But you see, Satan is a legalist and an open door to sin is still an open door.  Like a mouse that will squeeze into a crack to gain entrance to your house; a demonic spirit presence can travel much more easily but only through sin....sin we call harmless fun is really just still plain old sin....

Proverbs 14:8-9, 12
8 The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way, but the folly of fools is deceit. 
9 Fools mock at sin, but among the upright there is favor. 

12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death. 


This is the characteristic of Satan:

Proverbs 26:24-27
24 He who hates, disguises it with his lips, and lays up deceit within himself; 
25 When he speaks kindly, do not believe him, for there are seven abominations in his heart; 
26 Though his hatred is covered by deceit, his wickedness will be revealed before the assembly. 
27 Whoever digs a pit will fall into it, and he who rolls a stone will have it roll back on him. 


Therefore, this is the way of Satan and the way he wants our children, our inheritance from the Lord, to go.  I don't vote for trick or treat for my grandchildren, for I know, first hand, that it is a trick of the devil to deceive us into thinking that it's harmless fun.....it isn't.

It takes courage to do the right thing and be renewed with the truth of His word.  No form of worship of other gods, whether it be harmless fun, is acceptable to God.  It is against the first commandment....think about it. ~Minister Falcon

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  From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/16/2002 4:55 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (36 of 53)  
 
  446.36 in reply to 446.22  
 
Lyrk: 
I don't 'play' with Witchcraft. I am a Witch. I have been practicing Witchcraft of various traditions for more than twenty years. It is the only path I have ever walked, and as I said before, the only truth I have ever known. I'm happy that you have found faith that is meaningful to you, I'm not here to recruit anyone into Witchcraft (as a rule, Witches don't prosletyze) or to bash your faith. I just would appreciate it if, when you speak of us, you are sure your information is accurate.
Bored? Easily amused? Masochistic? Feel free to visit the Den of Iniquity! Join the fun! 
http://forums.delphiforums.com/firefight/start 

Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

Adrasteia & Lyrk: 
The Sapphic Spellcasters!
 
  
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  From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/16/2002 4:59 pm  
To:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)    (37 of 53)  
 
  446.37 in reply to 446.35  
 
"Satan's High Holy Day" 
Nonsense. It is, however, one of my holy days... does that make me a Satanist?

Bored? Easily amused? Masochistic? Feel free to visit the Den of Iniquity! Join the fun! 
http://forums.delphiforums.com/firefight/start 

Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

Adrasteia & Lyrk: 
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  From:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)    10/16/2002 5:20 pm  
To:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   (38 of 53)  
 
  446.38 in reply to 446.37  
 
Why solicit my opinion?  It is worthless....better to solicit the opinion of the Living God! 
  
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  From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/16/2002 5:33 pm  
To:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)    (39 of 53)  
 
  446.39 in reply to 446.38  
 
It's a public forum, where people exchange opinions. That's why. 
And, for the record, I speak to Divinity every day.
Bored? Easily amused? Masochistic? Feel free to visit the Den of Iniquity! Join the fun! 
http://forums.delphiforums.com/firefight/start 

Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

Adrasteia & Lyrk: 
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   From:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)    10/16/2002 5:52 pm  
To:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   (40 of 53)  
 
  446.40 in reply to 446.39  
 
The Divinity?  You mean Jesus, His Father, and the Holy Spirit? 
  
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From:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   10/16/2002 5:56 pm  
To:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)    (41 of 53)  
 
  446.41 in reply to 446.40  
 
Not as far as I know. I'll ask 'em sometime. :) 
Bored? Easily amused? Masochistic? Feel free to visit the Den of Iniquity! Join the fun! 
http://forums.delphiforums.com/firefight/start 

Have your Fluff-Bunnies spayed or neutered today. 
It's just the humane thing to do. 

Adrasteia & Lyrk: 
The Sapphic Spellcasters!
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/16/2002 5:59 pm  
To:  Adrasteia & Lyrk (ToilnTrouble)   (42 of 53)  
 
  446.42 in reply to 446.41  
 
No, for the record you are one Deceived Soul.

Also your Spamming is done on this forum. Im going to select the "lockout Mode" for your longin. There is no need for you to continue with your message of Witchcraft Propaganda over here.

All the best to you,

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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/16/2002 7:35 pm  
To:  cato20   (44 of 53)  
 
  446.44 in reply to 446.43  
 
Cato20,

Wow, in just a few short postings you managed to speak for God, the Church, Satan and even every neighborhood in the world.

Is there anybody that you dont speak for?

Unfortunately do to your name calling in the last post I took the liberty of also assigning your name to "lockout" status so your vast amounts of wisdom will need to find another forum in which to be expressed. 

Apparently you were to busy to learn from the previous post that rude behavior is just not appreciated on this forum.

David



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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/16/2002 7:51 pm  
To:  cato20   (45 of 53)  
 
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And for the Record I am Very Glad that you decided to edit your own post.

Thank you!

That was one of the lowest postings I have ever seen on this forum and unfortunately some have been very low.

*Note which you now just edited again to say something entirly different so I just deleted it. Because the thread would make no sence when you post to OMSFALCON then go back and edit it into a posting to me.0

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  From:  Seamus (MajorHarper)    10/31/2002 10:37 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (46 of 53)  
 
  446.46 in reply to 446.45  
 
This is the thread you advertise your forum with? A thread in which you ban two posters, one for cause and one just because?

What a great example of what Christianity is not, intolerant.
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/31/2002 11:53 am  
To:  Seamus (MajorHarper)    (47 of 53)  
 
  446.47 in reply to 446.46  
 
Hi Satoshi,

I hope that you are enjoying your visit here.

Unfortunately both posters were banned because of rude and inappropriate behavior to other posters. That is rule #1 on this forum and most other forums as well. Disrespect for God and other Christians will get you removed from the forum.

One of the challenges in hosting a forum where some people are naturally going to disagree is in creating an environment where discussion and disagreement can take place apart from individual insults. Banning is often necessary to maintain forum order. I think that is why Delphi has gone to such lengths to make sure that forum managers have the ability to edit, delete, or deny posting privileges.

It is imperative in having a forum that people feel protected when they come and post and this goes double for people who share the view of the forum.

There wouldnt be much of a forum if it was operated as a place for the targeted members to come and be harassed.

I too browse the various Delphi Forums and Every Forum that I have ever visited has had to ban someone and likewise most of them, like me, struggle with how to handle this unavoidable and unpleasant aspect of running a forum.

As far as promoting the forum, it is the content of the posted messages that is being promoted, and not my abilities as a forum host that are being promoted.

I hope this has addressed some of your concerns.

God Bless you,

David



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  From:  Seamus (MajorHarper)    10/31/2002 1:00 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (48 of 53)  
 
  446.48 in reply to 446.47  
 
I guess I don't see how the witch disrespected God or Christians. And even if she did, this new motive is inconsistent with the stated reason for banning her, that she was 'spamming' the board with 'Witch' propaganda.

 All of this made more difficult to understand because you had this thread as your forum advertisement. Shouldnt you make it clear this is a Christian only forum? Or failling that show, tolerance to those with conflicting beliefs who are able to discuss without resorting to 'straw man' arguments and personal attacks? Isn't that WJWD?

>As far as promoting the forum, it is the content of the posted messages that is being promoted, and not my abilities as a forum host that are being promoted.<

Yes, but the thread being promoted involved you booting two posters. Doesnt that speak volumes as to your abilities as a forum mod?

>It is imperative in having a forum that people feel protected when they come and post and this goes double for people who share the view of the forum.<

I have this feeling that the Witch you booted didnt feel protected. God made us all different, is it so odd that we should all have individiual beliefs? And are you going to make many converts to your way of thinking by showing others that you are intolerant. Is that WJWD?

>There wouldnt be much of a forum if it was operated as a place for the targeted members to come and be harassed.<

And it would be a terribly bland forum if only posters who agree with each other are allowed to participate.

>I hope this has addressed some of your concerns.<

:D

>God Bless you<

Right back at ya! :D Peace be with you. Blessed be. 

 

 
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/31/2002 1:25 pm  
To:  Seamus (MajorHarper)    (49 of 53)  
 
  446.49 in reply to 446.48  
 
Hi,

Thanks for your comments.

For the record she made a bad remark about God and then placed the :) after it in post #41, her reply to a previos post.

That is inappropite on almost any forum.

I purposely named the forum "Basic Christian" and the forum name is included in every promo so it is likely that most are aware even before they visit that they are going to a forum where they need to be respectful to God and to His Christian followers.

Thanks again for you input.

God Bless you,

David



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  From:  Seamus (MajorHarper)    10/31/2002 1:38 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (50 of 53)  
 
  446.50 in reply to 446.49  
 
For the record? :D 

This was the comment she made.

"Not as far as I know. I'll ask 'em sometime. :) "

Don't you talk to God? I do. Every day. 

The remark may have been flippant but that hardly offended God, or you as a Christian. The awnser was in response to the question if her divinity was Jesus. As she had pointed out several times she was a Witch, that question was either posted by someone with poor reading comprehension skills or someone 'trolling' or looking to be offensive or start an argument. Andd that's unfortunate because up to that point I was enjoying reading the exchange.

You see my wife wants to go tricker treating tonight, and I have some reservations. So I have been visiting Christian and other forums trying to make an informed decision.

>That is inappropite on almost any forum.<

Is it? Im a mod myself. I tend to disagree. 

But if you are looking for a specific type of poster, that is up to you- it's your forum. But if you are advertising in order to get more posters, alot of Christians (such as myself) are put off by heavy handed mods that react to a differing opinion with a ban. Perhaps a warning would have been better suited, or maybe asking for a clarification? Now we will never know if her remark was flippant or serious.

And considering the thread topic, wouldnt input from an actual Witch be appreciated? In order to clarify the origin of the holiday?

And many blessing to you as well. :D

 

 

 

 
 
  
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  From:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)     10/31/2002 1:45 pm  
To:  Seamus (MajorHarper)    (51 of 53)  
 
  446.51 in reply to 446.48  
 
Satoshi,

One of the things I have noticed on the pagan boards is a lack of Christians trolling the sites, disrespecting the moderators, the posters, and degradating pagan beliefs.  Yet, on Christian boards, there are a host of pagan, wiccan, Satanists, and pretend Christians doing EXACTLY that!

When a moderator opts to create peace by banishment; some other troll comes in and says 'Unfair'.  As if that is going to change anything.  The poster doesn't want to come back, the poster doesn't care to come back or there would be a personal dialog with the moderator and poster to make amends.  So what is the point of the the second troll coming in crying 'unfair'?  There is no point to it...it is just another way to try to express Satan's old weapon of guilt.  There is nothing wrong in acting responsibly...STOP calling good evil and evil good.  I REBUKE YOU  SATAN, GET BEHIND THEE! ~Minister Falcon
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/31/2002 3:54 pm  
To:  Minister Falcon (OSMFalcon)    (52 of 53)  
 
  446.52 in reply to 446.51  
 
HI Omsfalcon,

Good point!

I think that you are displaying good discernment.

God Bless you,

David



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   From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/31/2002 3:56 pm  
To:  Seamus (MajorHarper)    (53 of 53)  
 
  446.53 in reply to 446.50  
 
Hi Satoshi,

I still think that it was a ridiculing statement, that it was wrong, and that it was inappropriate.

Fortunately each reader will reach their own conclusions about the content of the postings so I dont feel the need to sell an opinion but to allow the reader to make their own informed decision.

God Bless you,

David



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